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- What is Super8 ?  - Which equipment do I need ? - Available SUPER 8 filmstocks !!!!
- Notching system on cartridges - Film cost/  is processing free ? - Where can I have my films processed ?
- How long does a film last ? - Can I use expired films ? - What's the story with Sound ?
- VIDEO TRANSFERS   !! NEW !! - I have unprocessed K40. What do I do? - S8 FILM SUPPLIES IN IRELAND!!
 
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What is Super 8 ?

    Super 8 is an 8 mm film gauge who currently enjoys a renaissance throughout the world. It was introduced as a simpler form of consumer filmmaking in the late sixties. Film comes in a cartridge that is slipped into the camera for filming. Most Super 8 cameras have automatic aperture functions for easy use. When developed, the cartridge is broken open, the film processed, and sent back to you on a reel that can be threaded into a Super 8 film projector or an editing screen for viewing.

    Entering the eighties, video took over and all the wonderful cameras and filmmaking equipment was no longer manufactured. Beaulieu in Italy and Quarz in Russia are currently the only companies still manufacturing super 8 cameras.

    Super 8 lives on though. The format was championed in the early eighties by the New York underground punk scene. Small groups of Super 8 filmmakers can be found here and there who enjoy the look of super 8 and its relatively small production costs.

 

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Which equipment do I need ?

    You need a super 8 camera + a projector or a viewing/editing machine for the viewing of your films. If you wish to edit your films, you can also get a splicer to cut and paste the parts you want to keep. You can also transfer your film to digital / video if necessary. There are many different ways or transferring from the DIY to the professional telecinema synched transfer.

We offer the highest quality transfer service in Ireland (HD Frame by Frame) and can output to a number of video formats and codecs.

 

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Available Super 8 filmstocks

   The main manufacturer of Super 8 films is Kodak. The most common S8 film used to be Kodachrome 40 (colour + silent) including free processing by Kodak. However Kodachrome was discontinued in June 2005 and replaced by a new filmstock: Ektachrome 64T (processing not included although certain labs have a film+processing offer).
UPDATE: in June 2010, Kodak launched the Ektachrome 100D stock, which is a clear improvement from its 64T predecessor.
Other companies have released new Super8 filmstocks and the more filmstocks (ie Fuji Velvia 50D) will be available in the next few months.
Note that all Super8 films are silent (sound K40 was discontinued in 97)

Here is a list of the main filmstocks currently available in Super8 format:

NAME     TYPE   INFO
- Kodak Ektachrome 100D   Color / Silent / 100 ASA   ! NEW !

Reversal film* / Separate processing
Film balanced for daylight
 
Discontinued
 

For this 100 ASA filmstock. CAN BE USED ON MOST S8 CAMERAS WITHOUT APERTURE ADJUSTMENT

This film gives great results and is made from Kodak Ektachrome 100D.

It is rated at 100asa in daylight.
It can also be used in tungsten=artificial light with an 80a filter, available from our shop (then rated at 25asa in tungsten)

- Fuji Velvia 50D   Color / Silent / 50 ASA   ! NEW !

Reversal film* / Separate processing
Film balanced for daylight

Discontinued
  THIS IS MEANT TO BE ONE OF THE CLOSEST LOOKING FILM TO K40
"Can be used in every Super 8 film camera! CINEVIA produces equally excellent exposures in cameras with 40 ASA (non-convertible) as in
cameras that can be set to 50 ASA."

- Tri X (black and white)   Black and White / Silent / 160ASA

Reversal film* / Separate processing
  This film can be used without any further adjustment in most Super8 cameras as most cameras were built to recognize 40 ASA and 160 ASA film cartridges.

If your camera only has automatic aperture and can't be adjusted manually, TriX and K40 are the only filmstocks that you can use.
- Vision 50D Vision 200   Color / Silent / 50ASA Daylight

Reversal film* / Separate processing
  This filmstock is specially designed for telecine (professional digital transfer). We can scan this in HD quality.

The result from processing is a negative image. This is why the film needs to be telecined in order to be viewed.

Alternatively, a positive copy can be printed by Andec Film for projection.
- Vision 200 NT Vision 200   Color / Silent / 200 ASA

Reversal film* / Separate processing
  This filmstock is specially designed for telecine (professional digital transfer).

The result from processing is a negative image. This is why the film needs to be telecined in order to be viewed.

Alternatively, a positive copy can be printed by Andec Film for projection.
- Vision 500 NT Vision 500   Color / Silent / 500 ASA

Reversal film* / Separate processing
  This filmstock is specially designed for telecine (professional digital transfer).

The result from processing is a negative image. This is why the film needs to be telecined in order to be viewed.

Alternatively, a positive copy can be printed by Andec Film for projection.
- Ektachrome 64T 64T  

Color / Silent / 64 ASA     ! NEW !

Reversal film* / Separate processing

Discontinued

  64T is the replacement filmstock for K40. It is a low grain (high quality) filmstock that can be processed in E6 chemicals. It means you can process it yourself if you have a super8 tank.

64T being 64 ASA, aperture on most cameras needs to be adjusted manually when shooting because this filmstock is more sensitive than K40 (40asa) and would be overexposed if no adjustment was made. Most cameras can only meter 40 and 160 ASA films properly as they were only 2 types of films when they were produced. S8 cartridges have different notches according to their speed/sensitivity (measured in ASA)

Please note that a few cameras (ex Canon 814 & 1014) won't need any manual adjustment of the aperture. due to their advanced system to recognize the notch on film cartridges.
- Ektachrome VNF 7240   Color / Silent / 125ASA

Discontinued
  This 125ASA film requires a manual adjustment on the aperture on many cameras as most cameras were built to recognize 40 ASA and 160 ASA film cartridges.

If your camera only has automatic aperture and can't be adjusted manually, TriX and K40 are the only filmstocks that you can use.
- Plus X (black and white) Plus X   Black and White / Silent / 100ASA

Reversal film* / Separate processing /Discontinued
 

Adjustment of the aperture also needs to be made manually on most cameras for this filmstock because of the cartridges' notching system

Limited stocks available

-  Kodachrome 40 (K40) K40  

Color / silent / 40 ASA

Reversal film*

Discontinued

  This stock was DISCONTINUED by Kodak in 2005.
The Kodak Swiss lab closed down in September 2006 and the only other lab that could process that stock in colour (Dwayne's) stopped that service in 2011 as they ran out of chemicals.

Also note that the yellow enveloppes that came with K40 are NOT processing coupons, as they only were valid as long as Kodak's K40 lab
We can process this stock in B&W and Sepia via our partner lab for outdated stocks, although this can be a lengthy process and a more expensive one than current super8 filmstocks. Finally, as you can imagine, quality can vary hugely depending on the film's age (70s, 80s, 90s etc), storing conditions etc
Once a film has been developped into a cine reel format, it ages very well, but anything that is left unprocessed in a camera for decades will gradually degrade up to a point that the image is barely visible.

* Reversal filmstocks
can be projected directly after processing, unlike negative films (which need a positive image printed from the negative or must be transferred digitally)

 

 

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What's the story with Sound ?

   Sound films were discontinued in 1997 but DAT or MiniDisc offer a much more professional alternative.
You can install a crystal sync system on some S8 cameras (Beaulieu, Canon etc) and projectors, in order to Sync with Nagra III tape recorders but it is quite expensive.

The cheap old way is to use a clap board so that you have a visual and audio cue when editing the footage (and therefore line up the image with the audio you recorded separately)

The other option is to use a clapboard, so you can match the sound + footage in your video editing program.

 Since then, good value field recorders by Edirol, Zoom, Marrantz, M-Audio etc have been released that allow you to make very high quality recording onto SD cards. More information on those recorders soon. For example, look at the zoom H2 and H4-N.

New Super8 cameras such as the Logmar (5000usd) or the upcoming Kodak Super8 camera (more affordable alternative) will feature crystal sync sound

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Where can I find Super 8 films ?
FILM SUPPLIES IN IRELAND

The most common film to find in Ireland was Kodachrome 40 until it was discontinued in 2005.
Kodachrome 40 has been replaced by Ektachrome 64, then 100D then Negative Films (50, 200 and 500asa)

Only one place in Ireland sells Super8 Film at this stage, so we have a steady supply of material and can ship worldwide.

GALWAY

- Super 8 Ireland: We offer a wide range of films: Ektachrome(limited stock), Vision 50/200/500 asa negative stocks, as well as Tri-X black&white,
Films and accessories can be ordered from us from our online section
Mob: 087-9040522 / Landline: 091-539607

DUBLIN
- John Gunn Camera Shop
, 16 Wexford Street D2 (opposite Wheelans), phone 01 4781226
Gunn's don't stock Super8 film anymore, but is very helpful and reputable for anything else film related.
This family run business across Whelans specialize in digital & film still cameras, darkroom supplies, DSLRs and Film for still cameras.

- Dublin Camera Exchange
, 63 Great George Street / 9b Trinity Street D2 , phone 014784125
The Dublin camera Exchange do not stock any Super8 Film anymore.
They still have a selection of second hand still cameras, as well as DSLRs, so why not pop in to them and say hello from us!
Very friendly crowd and centrally located (just off Dame St on Great George St south).

CORK
- Denis McSweeney
, 43 Marlboro Street, Cork, phone: 0214272919
They used to stock K40 back in the day, but do not stock super8 stock any longer.
Very nice bunch though, if you need anything photo related.

The Cork Film Centre on Pope Quay might have some. I need to double check.
In the meantime, ask the friendly Max and Chris

 

SUPPLIERS ABROAD
The Widescreen Centre (UK based) or Andec Film (Berlin based) for instance offer Super8 filmstocks with processing included

 

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Film cost / Is processing free ?

OUTDATED FILMSTOCKS
(70s,80s,90s unprocessed films such as Kodachrome 40=K40)

    Processing for K40 was free until the end of September 2006.
Nowhere else, including Dwaynes in the US can process Kodachrome 40 in Colour

We can process Kodachrome 40 in Black and White or sepia. Contact us for more information
We can also process old Fujichrome, Agfachrome & Agfa Moviechrome, Peruchrome and other outdated emulsions.
As long as the chemicals are available (old chemicals are becoming very rare and harder to source due to their toxicity), we will offer this service.
Note that outdated stocks are more expensive and take time to develop, so if you have films already in reel format, we recommend focusing on these and having them scanned in HD.
We also scanning of old film material to HD (frame by frame) at the highest quality, so feel free to contact us

CURRENT FILMSTOCKS (STILL IN PRODUCTION)

FILM + PROCESSING + HD SCANNING DEAL
We offer all inclusive packages for your film+development+HD Transfer
Call us on 091-539 607 to enquire

For all other films (PlusX, TriX, 64T, 100D, Vision 200NT, Vision 500),
use a private lab such as WWW.SUPER8.NL or ANDEC FILM
There are many of them all around Europe and worldwide
Turnaround on newer emulsions is much faster, as the chemicals are different and the demand higher.

 

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Where can I have my films processed ?

  

EKTACHROME 100D  /  TRI-X  /  NEGATIVE FILMS etc.
(All films except K40)
There are many labs all around Europe and the rest of the World
We can recommend the two following labs for the quality of their work and their rates
- Super8 reversal lab in the Netherlands : www.super8.nl      Tel: +31 62 6218676 -  Email:  post@super8.nl
- Andec Film in Berlin, Germany : www.andecfilm.de    Tel: +49-30 691 7036 -  Email:  service@andecfilm.de
 


THE KODAK SWISS LAB FOR KODACHROME 40 ONLY HAS CLOSED. THE AMERICAN FACILITY TOO.
TO PROCESS OUTDATED KODACHROME 40, PLEASE CONTACT US

All other stocks can be developed by the labs listed above.

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I have unprocessed Kodachrome 40: How do I get it processed?

Please contact us for black and white processing of Kodachrome 40


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Video transfer / Telecine

   It is possible to transfer Super8 film into digital format (VHS, DVD...) for backing up and/or editing purposes. There are several methods according to your needs and your budget:   



We offer a professional 8mm transfer service (both Super8 and Normal8) at a reasonable price.
Email info@super8ireland.com or call us today on
091-539607 or 087-9040522 for more information.

We do in-house frame-by-frame film transfers of the highest quality.


We offer many options such as DVD authoring, editing and ordering of your films, adding music, colour adjustments etc.
Our cine conversion service is an ideal Christmas gift. Convert your old family movies into DVD and share your memories with your friends.
back-up your precious footage on digital format for further editing and storage purposes.

DON'T LEAVE IT TO THE LAST MINUTE . . .

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- Telecine method:

You can have your film telecined in order to get the highest quality transfer possible. Several companies offer this service. They use special machines that will capture each image of your film onto computer. This service is mostly used by professionals (television and professional film makers) as it involves much higher costs than the DIY method.

Should you wish to get some footage telecined, we also offer this service.
For more information, please contact us.

Super8 Ireland (Galway) :
Website:       www.super8ireland.com 
Email:           info@super8ireland.com
Tel:               +353 (0) 91-539 607
Mob:            +353 (0) 87-9040 522
Contact:        Julien Dorgere
 

- Abroad, the Super8 reversal lab and Cineco offer a telecine service (Netherlands)
Details and prices can be found in the telecine section of their website www.super8.nl (Email: post@super8.nl )
The Super8 reversal lab also sells and processes film stocks other than K40 at a very competitive price.

SUPER8.NL
Address:      Hoge Zand 30A, 2512 EM, Den Haag, Netherlands
Website:       www.super8.nl 
Email:           post@super8.nl
Tel:                 +31 70 36 39 541
Mob:               +31 62 621 8676

ANDEC FILM
Address:       Hasenheide 9, 10967 Berlin, Germany
Website:       www.andecfilm.de
Email:           service@andecfilm.de
Tel:               +49-30 691 7036
Fax:              +49-30 693 0321
 

  - DIY method:

You can capture the projected image with a video camera and then copy the film onto VHS or MiniDV for instance. Once the film is captured digitally, it can be edited on a computer and turned into a DVD. Bear in mind that this can be a lengthy process, especially the first time.

The quality of this method can vary according to the equipment. Indeed a high quality 3CCD video camera (such as the Canon XM2) or a HD camera will give much better results than a regular handycam with no manual features and a smaller lens. A low end video camera will end up creating a lot of flicker, especially if your projector does not have advanced speed controls.

The type of projector used for the transfer is as important as the type of video camera. First of all, the projector needs to be bright (at least 100W. The brightest being 150W). Older projectors often have low wattage bulbs (50W) which can be problematic for transfers. The quality of the lens (sharpness, and brightness) also has an influence over the quality. Secondly, projectors with variable speed are preferred to regular projectors. Elements such as the projector blade also have an impact on the transfer.

It is best to project the image on two superimposed white A4 sheets 1 or 2 feet away from the projector, place the camera next to the projector  and capture the projection. You can play with the video camera speed and aperture settings as well as the projector speed (when possible) in order to get the best results possible.

This is a very good budget way to transfer Super8 and results can be great when done properly.
 

 

 
 
SVS Video Solutions (Gorey, Co. Wexford) :
Email:           george@svsvideosolutions.com 
Tel:               +353 (0) 94-28750
Mob:            +353 (0) 87-903 1564
Contact:        George Kelly
SVS also offer a wide range of video conversion services such as Betamax, VHS, DV Mini DV etc.


 
OUR ADVICE: STAY AWAY FROM TRANSFER BOXES:
Those boxes are suppose to be placed between the projector and the video camera for transfers but they are a waste of money.

They add grain, create hot spots and give blurry images.

Just use two superimposed A4 sheets instead. Results will be 100 times better.


 

  -- Buying your own telecine equipment: If you decide to invest into telecine equipment, Moviestuff offers great equipment at competitive prices and the owner Roger is extremely knowledgeable in terms of digital transfers.
Website:      Moviestuff
Email:          moviestuff@sbcglobal.net
Phone:         01713-426-6662
Address:      3120 White Oak Drive  Houston, Texas 77007
 

 

 

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How long does a films last ?

   Each film last approximately 3 minutes, depending on the speed of your camera (ie. if you shoot at 18, 24, 36 or 56 frames per second). At 18 frames per second, your film will last 3 minutes 20 seconds. At 24 frames per second, it will last around 2 minutes 40 seconds.

 

 

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Can I use expired films ?

   Yes. If the film has been stored in a cold place such as a refrigerator or a freezer, the quality remains the same. Processing is still free for expired European Kodachrome 40 (even from the 70's) if you send it to the Kodak lab in Switzerland before the end of September 2006. If your K40 was purchased outside of the EU, you will have to pay for the processing. Films that haven't been stored in a fridge can be quite reddish and sometimes semi transparent: this is an effect used by some film-makers to give a washed out image to the film. Sometimes, nothing comes up after the processing of expired films if they have been stored in a damp cellar or in a cupboard for years and years. The reason for this is that cleaning products on furniture for instance can damage the film after a long time (especially if the film is open).

Should you be looking for out of date filmstock, we have a selection of expired carts. Contact us for more information.

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The notching system on S8 cartridges: what does it mean?

Unlike Standard8 and 16mm cameras, Super8 cameras use filmcartridges. One of the advantage of those filmcartridges is that they are built in such a way that your camera will recognize the type of film used. How is that possible?

Very simple. S8 cartridges have a notching system (like a hole) on the side of the camera according to the speed / sensitivity of the film (40 asa, 64 asa, 100 asa, 160 asa etc.). That way, when you insert your cartridge in the camera, your film is exposed properly by the camera's lightmetre.


The only thing is: most super8 cameras can only recognize 40 and 160 asa films. Why? Because the only filmstocks available when they were built were 40 and 160 asa. This is the reason why most cameras won't expose newer filmstocks such as Ektachrome 64T, Wittnerchrome 100D, Plus X (100asa) or Vision NT (200 and 500 asa) properly. Their internal light metres will "think" the film used is either 40 or 160 asa.

What can be done to meter those newer filmstocks properly, such as Ektachrome 64T?

- Adjust the aperture on your camera manually when shooting.
  For example, you want to shoot Ektachrome 64T (64 ASA) and your camera thinks it is 40 asa. Let your camera's lightmetre take a reading at 40asa and add 2/3 focal stops in order to reduce the amount of light going through the lens (it is like closing the iris of a still camera). Note that the higher the value, the more closed the iris (it is wide open at 1.7 and completely closed at 22)

- Use one of the few cameras that recognize most notches on cartridges (The Canon Autozoom cameras or the Beaulieu cameras for instance)

- Use an external lightmetre instead of your camera's internal lightmetre (some cameras such as the Zenit have no internal lightmetre anyways)

 

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LINKS

 

c technical information on Super 8 cameras

          This page provides information on Super 8 cameras in order to help you choose the right camera.
           It explains the difference between different makes, lenses, shutters, exposure and film speeds.

 

c Super8 festival in Cork - Saturday Oct. 7th 2006
          Super8 Ireland will have a stall from 2 to 5pm on that day. Come and visit us

c Onsuper8.org
         This website is full of information on the Super8 format on top of having a great interface

 

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